Has there ever been a larger range of horsepower figures available to consumers within car lineups? (in USA)

"Nick Has an Exocet" (nickallain)
08/02/2019 at 14:40 • Filed to: None

Dodge

Dodge Journey: 173hp

Dodge Demon: 840hp

Differential: 667hp

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Chevy

Spark: 98hp

Corvette ZR1: 755hp

Differential: 657hp

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Ford

Fiesta: 120hp

Mustang GT500: 760hp

Differential: 640hp

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Nissan

Versa: 109hp

GT-R: 600hp

Differential: 491hp

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CLA250: 208hp

AMG GT 63 S: 630hp

Differential: 422hp

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BMW

X1: 228hp

M5: 617hp

Differential: 389hp

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Jaguar

E-Pace: 246hp

XE SV PROJECT 8: 592hp

Differential: 346hp

The rest of the automakers are kind of disappointing us.

DISCUSSION (53)

Milky > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 14:45

TIL you can buy a car with less than 100hp in the U. S.

Spanfeller is a twat > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 14:46

Tesla does something like 250 to 680

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 14:49

I’m surprised the Fed hasn’t stepped in and placed limits on horsepower offerings. The numbers are insane. 700hp? Even a V6 Impala has 300 horsepower.

Censored > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 14:54

The dodge is kinda cheating, the 840 is on race gas and an ecu flash. Though the Demons tune is supported by the factory, the vette is capable of more with a tune and race fuel. The De mon is something like 810 on pump gas.

Just Jeepin' > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 14:54

“ The rest of the automakers are kind of disappointing us.”

Ahem.

The SRT T rackhawk would like to have a word with you.

Milky > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/02/2019 at 14:55

Dont give them any ideas damnit.

Kinja'd!!!

OPPOsaurus WRX > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 14:56

audi :

A3 - 184hp

R8 - 602hp

differnce of 418 hp

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Milky
08/02/2019 at 15:01

I doubt I could.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 15:01

Given the fact that we’ve surpassed usable hp on the street...meh.

Shift24 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/02/2019 at 15:16

Doubtful, I could have taken a test and then go out and bought a H ayabusa without ever touching a bike.

ALso those are low selling, and auto manufacturers could just classify it differently to get around any legislation

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Milky
08/02/2019 at 15:17

I think the Mirage has something like 78 hp. The Prius C had a combined gas+electric output of 99 hp but I think it got killed off a year or two ago.

CRider > Milky
08/02/2019 at 15:20

You can, but you shouldn’t.

Michael > Shift24
08/02/2019 at 15:35

You don’t need a motorcycle license to buy a motorcycle.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Censored
08/02/2019 at 15:44

The ecu tune and everything else needed for full power is a $1 option when you buy a Demon. I’m pretty sure they include a can of race gas too.

Censored > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
08/02/2019 at 15:48

Oh I agree, we’re just not comparing apples to apples. The Demon isn’t street legal at 840 hp and with similar tunes to a vette, it can make similar numbers.

Milky > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com
08/02/2019 at 15:48

Legit forgot about the Mirage ... like everyone else.

Sammyno55 > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com
08/02/2019 at 15:56

I daily a Prius C and prefer the term "momentum car" instead of under powered.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/02/2019 at 15:57

I’m Mr. Big Government here, but I don’t think they should be banning them. I do think it might be appropriate to require a special endorsement for cars over 300HP or so. That would have to be a state by state thing (though I’d prefer if you could get a federal license, if only for the greater convenience of portability).

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Censored
08/02/2019 at 16:01

The difference is that you can buy a Demon tuned to make 840hp from your dealer with a warranty. To make 840 from a Vette you have to take it to a tuner, throw parts at it, and ditch your warranty. The point is Dodge sells an 840hp car at their dealers, Chevy doesn’t.

Censored > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
08/02/2019 at 16:14

I recognize this difference, thus why I said kinda. However it has always aggravated me that dodge plasters 840hp on every advertisement , but hardly mentions that it isn’t shipped that way, isn’t really feasible to drive it that way nor is it street legal. If we are going to compare cars that aren’t street legal, the copo camaro makes north of 1000 hp (they sell it at dealers too) .

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 16:14

not sure you really needed to add in the usa there

you think anywhere else sells 800 hp in mass produced cars?

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Censored
08/02/2019 at 16:31

COPOs have no VIN and cannot be registered in any legal capacity. An 840 tuned Demon is only not road legal because race gas is marked as off road use only. If you really want an 840hp Demon on the street you can just pay $10+ a gallon for race gas and no one will care unless you try to pass an emissions test. Put pump gas back in it and you are completely legal again.

Captain of the Enterprise > Sammyno55
08/02/2019 at 16:32

That’s how I felt about my 05 Corolla lol

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 17:11

Porsche 275 cayman

918 887

Diff 612

Nick Has an Exocet > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
08/02/2019 at 18:22

That’s pretty good, though intentionally ignored electric cars. Net h orsepower vs peak horsepower vs apples vs oranges and all that. It starts argu ments.

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Nick Has an Exocet > Milky
08/02/2019 at 18:23

I actually like the idea of the Mirage. If they put that engine in a Miata-like platform, it would be kind of rad.

Nick Has an Exocet > facw
08/02/2019 at 18:24

Oh man, I would love a multi-tier license scheme as long as you keep slow drivers out of the left lane.

Nick Has an Exocet > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
08/02/2019 at 18:26

The fact that we’re having this argument is amazing.

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Nick Has an Exocet > Just Jeepin'
08/02/2019 at 18:27

Meh, I count that in with Dodge. I should have just put “FCA” but then it would have skewed things to include the Fiat 500 since it’s 111hp.

Nick Has an Exocet > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/02/2019 at 18:28

No, but the other end is where you run into issues. For example non-US cars with inline-3's and small diesels. Mercedes also sells a version of the AMG GT that doesn’t meet US emissions and has more HP.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 18:29

The applicant should be required to count to the number of horsepower they intend to buy.

Nick Has an Exocet > OPPOsaurus WRX
08/02/2019 at 18:29

Oh, I missed that. Thanks!

Nick Has an Exocet > Spanfeller is a twat
08/02/2019 at 18:30

Eh, I left out electrics because they’re kind of a different beast.

Nick Has an Exocet > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
08/02/2019 at 18:30

Or calculate the airspeed of a laden swallow.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 18:37

Apparently a COPO is the line where it is no longer legally a car.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 19:10

I am here to say I am PSYCHED that you can still buy sub 100hp cars in North America. It’s almost a platitude here but there really is something special and fun about being able to go WOT max attack and not really be antisocial or loose your license. Maybe that’s because max sane cursing highway speed near me is like 70mph, but I love me some underpowered cars

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 19:14

I like your idea better.

OPPOsaurus WRX > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
08/02/2019 at 20:21

840hp that you don’t necessarily get to have.

BigBlock440 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
08/02/2019 at 21:32

Cobra Jets and DragPaks are in the same boat

Shift24 > Michael
08/02/2019 at 22:19

.... to legally ride it .

I’m just going to spell out everything now

Michael > Shift24
08/02/2019 at 22:43

Just saying, I bet a bunch of people who ride 'busas don't have their motorcycle endorsement.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 22:55

fair dinkum.... not in my lil country

we do still have some original 2cvs running around... i think they have about 10 hp lol

i dont think we have any citroens over about 300 hp tho... sooo thats still not a massive gap

Nick Has an Exocet > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/02/2019 at 23:46

That’s funny. I sat in a 2CV a couple months ago. It was great and terrible.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Nick Has an Exocet
08/02/2019 at 23:49

its a thing.....the old ones have suicide doors wich a strong breeze will blow clean off

(source me dad opened the door whilst moving once)

Shift24 > Michael
08/03/2019 at 00:21

True, sorry took that as a correction, lot of people being “ Actually” lately

Nick Has an Exocet > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
08/03/2019 at 01:33

He had the hood open and the wind was blowing the car around.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Sammyno55
08/03/2019 at 01:34

Except when you try to have fun, and the traction control is like NOPE. Hits the brakes and kills all your momentum ugh.

I deliver pizza in a C.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick)
08/03/2019 at 01:36

On the right road, and with no traction control, and especially on dirt. Yes 100% yes.

Uh, w210 > Nick Has an Exocet
08/03/2019 at 07:16

Aren’t the E-Pace and Spark electric?

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
08/03/2019 at 11:59

I think the pie cutter econo-tires on cars like these help too for low-grip fun. And yes they also make great pretend rally cars on fire roads and empty gravel lots and such

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick)
08/03/2019 at 12:33

Absolutely! Plus 185 tires are cheeeeap

Nick Has an Exocet > Uh, w210
08/03/2019 at 13:02

Lol nope. Confused?

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Nick Has an Exocet
09/25/2019 at 17:27

Lexus is at 303 between the 169(nice) hp UX200 and the 472 hp RC-F Track Edition

Toyota is 275 between the 106 hp Yaris and the 381 hp Tundra